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Zodiac Meteor · Nov 23, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by the savage nornbear

If you can use 7 heroes, its not very hard mode. Wtb 8 man discordway. Perma-aegis. 800 armor ignoring damage. Mass party wide heals. Ballsload of minions. Gameover.

exactly why /not signed

Darkobra · Nov 23, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27

So they'd crank out more damage, make us do less damage and make prot monks loved even more?

Numa Pompilius · Nov 23, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52

VHM would be no heroes, only henches.

But I'll sign any suggestion to let us use 7 heroes, so /signed.

EDIT: Also, you guys who think having 7 heroes would be "easy mode" - what do you then call playing with 8 humans, who can think for themselves and use PvE skills, summons, and consumables?

MithranArkanere · Nov 23, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

If it were all heroes, then it won't be "Very Hard".

MAybe you find the game too easy, but...

Hm... if difficutly was a slider instead a toggle, it could allow much more grades of difficulty, but currently it seems that there is no way to make difficulty 'gradual'.

Just have to make the game more difficult for you in your own way.

newbie_of_doom · Nov 28, 2008, 09:26 AM // 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

People complaining about 7 heroes are just being as stupid as the people who complained that hard mode was hard. Anet seems to enjoy listening to stupid ideas and not the good ones. Like consumables and PVE skills dont make the game easier then 7 heroes without consumables and PVE skills would. Oh wait, yes the 7 heroes would make the game easier, only because of how bad people who choose to play in a group always are.

But H/H'ing is much improved now since they have Odurra Visions of Regret. The only campaign left with truly bad henchmen for HM is prophecies. The henchmen in all the other games are at least a lot better then most other players are.

so true

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Sweet Mystery · Nov 28, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

Just how you get into VHM? Have to be a Guardian of that campaign? For the effort to implement this it would be a benefit probably to a smaller minority of players than HM is available to.

I doubt many people even want to try guardian.... I guess if this was the case, Factions would be the VHM farm fest as Guardian is easier there than the others...

Shasgaliel · Nov 28, 2008, 11:34 AM // 11:34

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Originally Posted by wind fire and ice

Okay,VHM would have to be same as HM with 20 attr in every thing and balanced builds(like eotn) would take WAY toomuch work though. /notsigned

According to sticky of this section workability should not be an argument here....

I hope rewards will not be much higher than in HM since overfarming is really killing this game. With the possibility of 7 heroes would not it be easier than HM actually? I think there some specification missing.

Numa Pompilius · Nov 28, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16

/signed for 7 heroes.

Also: the last "give us 7 heroes" thread got closed, with the mod saying that ANet had outright stated that there was never going to be 7 heroes. Can someone point me to where and when Anet's said this?
All I know is that Gaile said that they were "looking in to it" but that the game wasn't "balanced for it".

kostolomac · Nov 28, 2008, 01:24 PM // 13:24

/notisgned
HM was done very bad , they just upped the numbers for the mobs. And I guess they would do the same with VHM.

/notsigned for the 7 heroes thing too , there is no need , just make the Proph henchies suck less.

O Nuxtofulakas · Nov 28, 2008, 01:30 PM // 13:30

just permanerf "shadow form" and you'll automatically get the VHM you are asking for...
..ok it's not VHM actually but w/o shadow form you have the chance to see how normal/hard mode was supposed to be...

t00115577 · Nov 28, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

/signed for 7 heros

Smurf Minions · Nov 28, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44

3 heroes is enough to roll through the whole game on NM and HM /notsiged

and VHM will be just 1000000 damage each wanding enemy /notsiged

payne · Nov 28, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

just play with no heroes and only hench....and u take off all your armor

there ya go VHM....

o.O and no elite

kthxbai /unsigned

snaek · Nov 28, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

my idea of very hard mode:
-4x (or lower/higher) drop rates
-new drops introduced (or perhaps jus inscr versions of previously non-inscr only weaps)

-exact same mechanics as hard mode

-no pve skills allowed (or slots reduced to only 1)
-no cons allowed

-no heroes/henchies allowed
-max partysize reduced to 6
-partysize must be 6 to be able to enter any area (to prevent solo farming)

sure its not really all that harder
but it forces ppl to group together

Hyper.nl · Dec 02, 2008, 08:39 AM // 08:39

/notsigned

Hard mode is hard enough already, and I would like to have 7 heroes in normal mode as well. Please?

daraaksii · Dec 02, 2008, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

VHM would be no heroes, only henches.

But I'll sign any suggestion to let us use 7 heroes, so /signed.

EDIT: Also, you guys who think having 7 heroes would be "easy mode" - what do you then call playing with 8 humans, who can think for themselves and use PvE skills, summons, and consumables?

I wish that time would come. Playing in PUGs again, the good old days.

/notsigned for 7 heroes or either "VHM".

Is it only me or "Very Hard Mode" really sounds dumb?

taiwf · Dec 02, 2008, 09:12 AM // 09:12

IMO , one thing VHM must have is that monster group have build like NPC mob in Z-elite (the one in pvp map). They are all lv20, but their build(copied from HOH or GVG) are so effective that they don't need too much buff/monster skill to post a threat on player.

-> This at least provide different 'taste' of challenges compare to blindly buff mob's attribute to ridiculous high level. As a gw player we certainly appreciated less for 'more of the same' type game update.

Cebe · Dec 02, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52

There have been threads asking for players to be able to use 7 heroes. [Clicky]

There have been threads asking for a super unbeatable hard mode. [Clicky]

This thread therefore is just reiterating ideas previously posted, and as such, will be locked..